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Datum 2013-06-20
Name Simone
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Kommentar There does seem to me to be some work on the history of ggherapoy which draws on the so called Cambridge school of contextual intellectual history to which you allude at the start of this thread. David Livingstone clearly drew some inspiration from these sources, although he seems more Gadamerian in the end analysis. But dare I mention that my own work has for a decade plus drawn explicitly on Oakeshott, Skinner and Pocock? I've written a number of pieces, for example, re the geographies of Pocock's Barbarism and Religion project which you mention elsewhere in this site. More recently, I've also delved into a more Nietzschean vein of genealogical history in an essay published in Agnew and Livingstone's recent collection, The Sage Handbook of Geographical Knowledge .We also now have a more variegated discussion emerging with the cross-fertilisations coming from that branch of intellectual history addressing the history of the book, which has made for interesting inflections in our disciplinary histories in the hands of Miles Ogborn, David Lambert and Innes Keighren. And so on And then there is the reverse traffic, wherein it seems that a lot of intellectual historians are drawing inspiration from the ideas of geogaphies of knowledge Withers and Livingstone have pioneered: volume 4 of Pocock's Barbarism and Religion is an obvious example. See also the recent volume by Jonathan Scott, When the Waves Ruled Britannia .Greatly looking forward to the Kant collection as another component in these discussions .
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Datum 2013-06-19
Name Marlene
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Kommentar I find this discussion very inneiestrtg. One thing that I think is important to highlight is the lack of a common tradition or a canon in geography. Tradition also in the sense of translation between generations. This is related to the historiography that seems to me to be par of the course in many Anglophone PhD programs as well as in its “encyclopaedic” projects. Geography is often described as something that begun in earnest after 1945 – if even then. What came before was the bad old days of environmental determinism or the Sauerian landscapes of barns and fences. All nuances are brushed to the side. The perfect example of this can be found, I think, in Peter Gould’s GEOGRAPHY 1957–1977: THE AUGEAN PERIOD. A paper that I truly enjoy. The irony is of course that this lack of a canon means that few read the work of the iconoclastic space cadets today. As they didn’t read the work of the iconoclast Sauer. I am not saying that this iconoclasm is necessarily a bad thing but any revolution – as in the incessant turns geography has been subjugated to – need to know against what, precisely, it is turning against. In this sense it seems as if the neighbouring disciplines of anthropology and sociology are far more advanced that geography. Perhaps, one of the reasons is that it is impossible to conceive of the histories (as well as their present) of these disciplines without taking into account their continental legacies? Legacies that, ironically, contain geographers such as Vidal (the annals school) and Ratzel (Durkheim).Furthermore, I agree that the way out of writing the history of the discipline as either hagiography or as patricide is through embedding it in a tradition of history of science or ideas. Another dilemma is the way that the history of the discipline has been written from the perspective of national schools or traditions. Something that is still being done in for example the country reports of Social and Cultural Geography. These, often arbitrary, periodization’s and national fixations effectively hinder the writing of the history of the discipline. Someone like Torsten He4gerstrand was of course a Swedish geographer but is becomes almost impossible to understand his time-geography and its holistic ontology without reading it against the Ratzelian tradition translated to him through the influence of Edgar Kant.
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